i think i read somewhere that if you have been inactive for ten years plus, the elders will not try to meet with you and corner you to get you back "in".
is that true?.
i just realized that mr. spiral and i haven't gone to meetings or reported time for over ten years.
When it comes down to it, Elders anywhere in the world will unilaterally decide if/when to to attack shepherd a lost sheep.
Always be prepared to respond if confronted by any JW; "I appreciate your concern, but there's nothing private & personal I wish to discuss with anyone at the moment. Thanks anyway."
Then exit, stage left - immediately.
is it vital for credibility to have the name of the writer of an article referenced?.
does this allow for honesty and accountability?
does this assist in ensuring that whatever is presented is as factual as possible, or not biased in some way toward the religion's ideas?.
So would it make a difference if the Society referenced the writers by name? Would it create a culture of honesty and transparency? Would it even matter?
'Yes' to the first & last. 'Maybe' for the middle one.
But since such openness would expose the 7 dwarf's sub-contracting of "providing food at the proper time" to non-anointed Writing Committee members, it would diminish/eliminate all the hard work which has been done in recent years to publicise & glorify the G.O.D.S. of Warwick.
The Gibbering Body are like shopkeepers; they don't make the food, they're only middlemen who just want to sell it and make a profit.
a reliable source has informed me that a bethel contact has informed them that paul gillies - a london branch committee heavyweight - is moving to warwick to join the legal department there.
anyone else aware of this?.
during the recent court case in russia, he posed for a photograph with the gb member and the rest of the wt a-team..
A reliable source has informed me that a Bethel contact has informed them that Paul Gillies - a London Branch Committee heavyweight - is moving to Warwick to join the legal department there. Anyone else aware of this?
During the recent court case in Russia, he posed for a photograph with the GB member and the rest of the WT A-Team.
imagine yourself still sitting at a kingdom hall meeting and turn to the book of mark 7: 21-23. the sayings of jesus are really profound.
the scripture makes you think, reflect, enters your heart and produces results.. today, you have your modern day governing body ( who supposedly are the mouthpiece for jesus and jehovah and provide spiritual food for the 8 million followers).
if jehovah really sends his holy spirit upon these seven men, is this silly and petty message they can come up with?
The mother of the JW harlots - the WTBTS - decides via its literature and its 7 puppets in Warwick which Bible teachings can be followed by JW's, and which ones can't!
Example:
Jesus said - If you know someone has committed a serious sin, resolve it between you and them alone. End of.
WTBTS says - Ignore what Jesus said at Matt. 18:15-17; we tell you what to do in such a situation. So if you know that someone has committed a juicy, serious sin, go and "talk to them" about it. Having "discussed" it, then tell them that they are compelled to confess to 3 elders via a Judicial Committee.
Can you imagine how many JW's would not be disfellowshipped each year if r&f JW's followed Jesus Christ's teaching - instead of obeying the "disgusting thing" in New York State?
jehovah's witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - san diego reader (california, us), friday, january 12, 2018.
The WTBTS hierarchy's main concern isn't about JW's hearing of paedophilia allegations/lawsuits against the cult, because these can easily be classed as media lies, persecution, etc.
Their absolute priority is to prevent the r & f from discovering exactly how many millions of dollars in donations are being used by their religious masters to protect paedophiles. The cash flow would turn to a trickle if JW's found out.
i thought of successfully fading out, but suffered a miscarriage last week.
i gradually decreased the number of meetings i attended.
in the latter half of the year it became once a month, then once in two months, once in three months ….. last week, two elders who visited me, after their bla..bla..asked: “where will you go leaving the motherly organization—the only truth now available on earth?”.
Welcome Ireneus.
It looks like you don't have anything to lose or anyone holding you back from speaking your mind. Whatever your situation is, you can clearly now tell the wolves - politely or bluntly - to get lost, because you've pulled back the curtain. Many of us wish it was this easy for us - but everyone's case is different. Best wishes as you cut them off.
maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.
for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.
for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.
"Bring up some valid points?" Sorry to tell you, but they are not setting up the kangaroo court so that you can enlighten them. You will teach them nothing. Their purpose is to execute you, and they will shut you up as soon as you start to say anything they don't like.
If you turn up, you are legitimising the cult's authority over you and allowing 3 of its hit-men to carry out their dirty deed. DON'T GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think the overwhelming problem with trying to wake up friends and family is they have nowhere else to go.
i mean these people all their friends are jws a lot of them their family is jws.
if they wake up or agree with you in anyway they know instantly that they loose all this, many will even loose jobs.
Many years ago, JW's were confident that they had more knowledge about the Bible than the average Joe Bloggs they were calling on.
Now the shoe is on the other foot - Joe Bloggs knows a helluva lot more about the skeletons in the WTBTS's cupboard than the average JW does, and it's demoralising the r&f - because Joe Bloggs can humiliate them with his info. They are dragging themselves to the field service - they don't march confidently any more.
all the money paid out by the watchtower to the child abuse law suits comes from the worldwide work fund or the contributions from the monies given for the kingdom hall real estate.
so,when we were actively involved donating funds for this purpose,and the watchtower used those funds for purposes other than the worldwide work are they not guilty of stealing funds that were donated for jehovah's kingdom.
can anything legal be done about this?
As an alleged "charity," their lawyers have covered the cult by inserting escape-clauses into the letters begging for money.
Remember the 4 page letter in 2014 begging for donations? They stated 28 times that the money would be used "to build Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls."
That letter was "adjusted" using this statement before it was read out to the congregations;
"Please note, funds received for this new programme will form part of our general funds, rather than a restricted fund, however your preference for the donations to be used for construction will be noted."
The slimy evangelical money-grabbers at Brooklyn knew exactly that most of the money would not be used for KH/Assembly Hall construction.
..............if their child pursues higher education and lives on campus.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ob4wa/interesting_tidbit_from_elders_school/?st=jc214ok2&sh=cfa8af95.
Thanks Tiki. Just to clarify.
